Does God choose us or do we choose God?

A question that came up on Google+ in one of my circles. “Why does the god of that religion need humans – perhaps, rather, what is the purpose for which that god created them, and why?” I found this to be a bit confusing, however I was able to pull off a few points with this question. Point’s I have always had in mind.

My first thought was how do I really address this as I see religion as an impartial part of  God. I decided to take it in my own direction and ask the real questions that need to be asked here.

“Sometimes I think we created ourselves. What if we are truly a very old race? How far fetched is the possibility of putting ourselves here? What is all this technology for? Why bother exploring space and spending billions? Maybe the answers are right in front of us. And religion…? We needed some type of morals and rules.” – RW

My understanding to the waves of the masses is incoherent here and relatively an ancient being that once possessed powers that moved all of us, but was it really true? I still am not for sure to be utterly honest. I know that religion has caused hell and saved us from hell as well. I am not opposed to it, but it has nothing to do with me and “us”.

David Zoll

“Pick a religion.

Why does the god of that religion need humans

If there are any gods around who feel that they need humans, they should consider that clinging is a form of Tanha, attachment, and it will result in suffering.

If those gods would spend more time in meditation, it could help them learn to detach, and relieve much suffering.
perhaps, rather, what is the purpose for which that god created them, and why?

You’d have to ask them that. Personally, I suspect some gods are taking credit for creating things that were there already.”

My response – “Hi there, I agree with you, I read a book that changed my entire perspective on a Creator that starts from scratch. Basically what the author said was we are only one chromosome away from apes, meaning that if there is a creator the job wasn’t really that hard for it/him/she/ them to really claim such brilliance.:) It got me thinking and made me laugh as well.:) A very unique idea I always keep in my thoughts of possibilities.”

I think one of the greatest things is our opinions and how we come to these conclusions is very identical, yet ironic.Especially where the bible comes in with all its glorified words.

My ending result with this conversation –

“Honestly guys look at what is going on here, we are way too advanced for our time here, and I think its very clear and always have been, but I’m one person that is observing, however I do not find it ironic how fast we really have moved with our time spent here. Come on guys think about it and the Egyptian pyramids , what if we were truly a different race at once and did the same exact thing we are doing now? Where we could build such empires, I think its very simple in a way. Like I said above, every answer is right there in front of us. It’s about seeing what we are really doing here, no beliefs or anything can strike it out because it holds a truth, actions will always dominate. So take a good look around us and I have always seen this for some time. Take death, why do we make horror films and why do we fear it so much when it is the most natural part of life? Something isn’t right here, it is very clear to me that we develop ourselves and technology in order to move on…and live forever.:) I love my thoughts sometimes because I get this intense feeling within me that I may just be the one to show us all that we really have been “here” the entire time.”

I think its interesting to see that the process here has always been the same, we have not been on the earth long at all yet we are out in space on a regular basis? Forget about the depths of our oceans.. I don’t see any other ways around the simple PHYSICAL facts that we are doing just as I always seen. Building on in order to “save our asses” if needed. Also just because I came up with this hypothesis does not mean I don’t believe in a God, it is simply a possibility and a very linear thought of mine I had years ago.

-Ronni W

The Human Race is constant as the universe?

Hi there everyone, Recently one of my members of my forum had posted this writing piece. Let me know what you think.

“At 19, I read a sentence that re-terraformed my head: “The level of matter in the universe has been constant since the Big Bang.”
In all the aeons we have lost nothing, we have gained nothing ~~ not a speck, not a grain, not a breath. The universe is simply a sealed, twisting kaleidoscope that has reordered itself a trillion trillion trillion times over. Each baby, then, is a unique collision ~~ a cocktail, a remix ~~ of all that has come before: made from molecules of Napoleon and stardust and comets and whale tooth; colloidal mercury and Cleopatra’s breath: and with the same darkness that is between the stars between, and inside, our own atoms.
When you know this, you suddenly see the crowded top deck of the bus, in the rain, as a miracle: this collection of people is by way of a starburst constellation. Families are bright, irregular~shaped nebulae. Finding a person you love is like galaxies colliding. We are all peculiar, unrepeatable, perambulating micro~universes ~~ we have never been before and we will never be again. Oh God, the sheer exuberant, unlikely fact of our existences. The honour of being alive. They will never be able to make you again. Don’t you dare waste a second of it thinking something better will happen when it ends. Don’t you dare.”

written by  Caitlin Moran ╰დ╮

My response- “It’s interesting but the universe is constantly expanding. This reminds me of a line a evolved race had said in the movie AI.
“I often felt a sort of envy of human beings, of that thing they call ‘spirit’. Human beings have created a million explanations of the meaning of life- in art, in poetry, and mathematical formulas. Certainly human beings must be the key to the meaning of existence. But human beings no longer existed. So, we began a project- that would make it possible to recreate the living body of a person long dead from the DNA in a fragment of bone or mummified skin. We also wondered would it be possible to retrieve a memory trace in resonance with a recreated body. And you know what we found? We found the very fabric of space/time itself appeared to store information about every event which had ever occured in the past. But the experiment was a failure. For those who were resurrected only lived through a single day of renewed life. When the resurectees fell asleep on the night of their first new day they died, again. As soon as they became unconcious, their very existence faded away into darkness. So you see, David, the equations have shown that once an individual space/time part had been used it could not be reused. If we bring your mother back now it will only be for one day. And you will never be able to see her again.”

I always thought this line was fascinating, but I do see the universe as many many layers and some of them do overlap onto and in between one another, similar to a kaleidoscope,however I think there are also “gaps” and empty voids that in a way do not exist yet because everything is still unfolding in a sense, therefore the possibility of living both before and after death are quite probable. Apparently the universe is still only a child and it’s growth may just bring many possibilities that we will have the slightest clue how to measure. What if a part of us can never be recreated but another part/parts of us have always been there?? Maybe this explains everything? Or Nothing? I still think we are missing something so simple that we continuously look over it and I think it is within each and all of us and I’m not referring to energy, even though that is a part of it. It’s hard for me to explain exactly how I see this, but I hope you get the picture. Very thought provoking DB thanks for posting.”

Let me know any thoughts or anything you may feel on this very unique matter. Thank you.